These are people that kill an entire family whether it's for profit or other personal gain. Acts of maternal familicide are measured against the family annihilator profile. She was in a custody dispute and I'm assuming she was worried about losing her children and obviously the answer is killing them (/s x a million). Leaving the bodies in the home to come back to CT seems... very careless. “The self righteous family annihilator … engages in a dramatic performance of his domineering, masculine identity,” they write, providing the example of a man who picked up his kids on Father’s Day, filled the car with deadly amounts carbon monoxide and tried to trick his wife into setting off an explosive device. Convicted family annihilator Chris Watts is “triggered” by the new Netflix documentary recounting his brutal murders of his wife and young children, according to a new report. “These guys have somehow come into some shameful event, economically or socially. Sound like that French guy who murdered his family because his life/business was falling apart. Medicaid fraud in relation to his PT office is what I've gleaned from the Facebook group. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Most researchers agree that this act is a form of mass murder due to the multiple victims involved. The sisters have confirmed that the dog was also killed. Also, what about his sisters and their Facebook group? I swear I just recently watched the 20/20 on this. This was a super Christian, home schooling, home birthing family. The whistleblower is able to collect up to 20% on whatever is stolen. I’ve been following this case since Sunday. The world is so upside down it’s scary to leave the house. MOST POPULAR VIDEO/AUDIO. Oh my lord how horrifying!!! It's especially concerning because she should've known better, being a psychologist. This part is just conjecture but what if he realized his crime, called his sister in a panic and told her everything? The “image” is of the utmost importance to them. I was in shock on Monday when Tony Todt was taken into custody (escorted in handcuffs to a local hospital) ALIVE. But family annihilations are in a different class, says Jack Levin, a professor of sociology at Northeastern University and lead author of the soon-to-be-released 10-year study. Do You Have A Request? This also seems evident in the Hart case (discussed below). Follow our Social Media for case requests and updates: Instagram: @PlanetCrimePodcast Twitter: @PlanetCrimePod Facebook: Planet Crime Podcast Sources: www.insider.com www.wikipedia.com www.oxygen.com… Do You Have A Request? He kills each member of the family who is present, sometimes including pets. Will the sisters be in trouble for lying about the involvement of the police? Linkedin. "They've previously had wealth, had possessions, they went on foreign holidays. Why kill the dog too? Ok, I posted about the family annihilator yesterday and today we have another one. It's a purge. I think we may be about to discover another woman or extramarital affairs. I guess it depends on when the investigation started. The reason I posted this one is because this time, it's a woman who (get this) was also a psychologist. How a mother can kill her own is beyond me. Were the daughters adopted, or the product of assisted reproduction? Heres a big case from my state https://www.waterskraus.com/record-236m-settles-dental-medicaid-fraud-involving-xerox/ if youre interested in how false claims work. A Reddit thread includes chatter of the similarities in both cases with one user pointing out that Xavier, like List, apparently removed family photos on his way toward total family annihilation. A familicide is a type of murder or murder-suicide in which a perpetrator kills multiple close family members in quick succession, most often children, relatives, spouse, siblings, or parents. “The self righteous family annihilator … engages in a dramatic performance of his domineering, masculine identity,” they write, providing the example of a … I’m interested in finding other people who are following this case and hearing your theories on the “why”. No plea for them to come home. Season One 1.1. I don’t think he’s another Chris Watts. The motive appears to be a custody dispute. As far as killing the dog too, IMO he probably just wanted to be rid of all of them and if he didn't kill the dog he'd have to find somewhere to take it. There is a type of killer known as a family annihilator. Also I feel like people are really overlooking the religious angle. Someone just wrote an interesting comment on the Facebook group to ask people to stop saying - oh, he was so nice! 1. How absolutely awful. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. I think he may actually feel remorse (I don’t believe watts does) and may have been mentally deteriorating since the murders. Join them as they unfold details in cases and discuss the family annihilator complex. Now the man has to find a way to move past all this. A criminologist at Birmingham City University has said Christopher Foster - who killed his wife and daughter - had a personality known as a "family annihilator". I’ve often speculated. Jocelyn and Hayley host Family Annihilators where they cover cases on men and women who murder their families. ReddIt. Mental illness? https://twitter.com/Pleaseabductme/status/1217284811917840384?s=20. Billing with no license for 3 months isnt going to get noticed that quickly. Music, Film, TV and Political News Coverage. Here is the press conference from the Osceola sheriff: https://www.registercitizen.com/local/article/Cops-to-release-IDs-CT-family-feared-dead-14977063.php In it the Sheriff says that Todt's CT family reached out to Florida police on 12/29 asking for a welfare check. once he comes close or decides to ram you, shoot him before he touches you or gets very close. So sad. Were they too? The reason I posted this one is because this time, it's a woman who (get this) was also a psychologist. Family Annihilator: Eben McDowell, suffering from a schizophrenic break, killed his family, then started shooting at the police, who killed him. It reeks of Chris Watts vibes, an appearance obsessed family living in a house of cards that suddenly tumbled. It seems that a number of people (often killers) have some training in the field of psychology. That aside, I think that their marriage was likely on the rocks and that perhaps when his wife decided she wanted a divorce, Tony killed them all as it was a straw to break the camel’s back on his life that was crumbling around him. If I had to guess, something made him snap as you said. I'll throw my brother to the wolves real quick if he killed my nephews and nieces. The annihilator feels 'given that I can't give my family any of this any longer' as an act of almost mercy, as they would see it, 'I'll take their lives so as to prevent them having experiences of any hardship'." Her best friend is super entrenched in MLM. Morbid N’ Macabre True Crimes Join The Discussion It doesn't matter that from the perspective of the wife and kids them finding out hasn't happened yet. It was insane. Now he has to get rid of the reason why he ever cared about his facade in the first place. He might have wanted insurance money too. It's usually a whistleblower. I’m originally from Bucks County where his father originally hired a hit man to shoot his mother. This story is about a seemingly loving single father, Justin Painter, who turned into a family annihilator. "To … There was a fellow in Westfield, NJ who killed his entire family over a debt (you know, saving them from hell and such). Other interesting developments have been a confirmed sighting of Tony in CT on 1/4/2020, likely after the family was murdered and it has come out that Tony’s father had payed a student to shoot Tony’s mother for him. Tony’s whole family is full of bad apples. I had become fixated on the idea of writing a novel told from the point of one such annihilator; as part of my research, I scoured the internet for stories about men who had committed the most shocking acts against their loved ones. Were they truly trying to find their brother (unlikely one my opinion due to their lying about law enforcement involvement) or trying to help him establish an alibi that corresponded with witness testimony? Wanna reach out? She explains that clearly he is a narcissist/psychopath/sociopath (don’t know which one actually fits) and by glorifying him, people are disrespecting the victims. Show Intro: In 1976, Leo the Golden Retriever was just your average american dog. I understand that people who gravitate toward mental health professions can also themselves have severe mental health concerns. Join In On The Crime Discussion Forum! Men who kill their families can be separated into four distinct types. Other interesting developments have been a confirmed sighting of Tony in CT on 1/4/2020, likely after the family was murdered and it has come out that Tony’s father had payed a student to shoot Tony’s mother for him. It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one. 3) The typical family annihilator appears to see their family members as an extension of themselves, or as a status symbol, rather than as separate beings with their own needs and desires. Fandom Apps Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. The sheriff believes it happened in late December. Sounds like the company Jim set up in the Office. It appears the "Family Annihilator" strikes again. I haven't looked into it much but I've seen a bunch of redditors saying they knew them and are just shocked and can't comprehend it, saying he appeared to be a good dad, proud of his kids etc. “That is not so much control, as shame,” says Gelles. Had he not possessed an ego the size of Texas, this murderer would never have been caught; Bob wanted to be recognized as a serial killer before he kicked the bucket, so he gave the police what they need to know. Again. He came back to CT to discuss with the sister what he should do going forward... but then, I’m not sure why he would go back to Florida. A death investigation is going on in Celebration, Florida at an address tied to the Todt family. He wasn’t heard from for weeks. I saw a few people in discussion wondering about stats on homeschooling and murders like this due to the isolation, but I think it goes further to what you’re saying. He seems like a mess. D&D Beyond Overall, many variables remain consistent across gender, but there appear to be substantive differences in motivation, spousal murder attempt, and the role of alcohol. Find-A-Grave: Dr Charles Klepetar Find-A-Grave: Robert Hume McDowell Find-A-Grave: Elizabeth Klepetar … I think the dog was barking and that would attract neighbors. Ep 9: The Family Annihilator. The false claims act charge is interesting. Though I’ve never researched, that those with mental are likely to go into the field. I've read that his company Performance Edge Sports was under an ongoing False Claims Act investigation. Went back to clean the mess (why else would he go back to that house?) It’s incredibly sad. The Family Annihilator Turned University Professor – James Gordon Wolcott An article by Emily Thompson 25th September 2019 • 4 min read In 1967, 15-year-old James Gordon Wolcott murdered his mother, father, and sister. He would stalk them for some time, then hold them captive while they were supposed to be on vacation, murdering them aft… Those poor girls and their poor dad :(. Join In On The Crime Discussion Forum! ", Deegan was a psychologist, according to her website. Enter the whole “missing family” Facebook group that we now know was at least on some level deceptive. Family annihilator Chris Watts has made a chilling new confession that he 'murdered his daughters twice', in a disturbing prison letter obtained exclusively by DailyMailTV. The family finding out has already played out in his mind. there was that woman in Alabama whose name eludes me....killed her autistic kid for money and ended up on Death Row. Their perspective doesn't matter, remember. Most often, family annihilators are a parent. Does this add an extra layer of evil? Ok, I posted about the family annihilator yesterday and today we have another one. Press J to jump to the feed. Family annihilators may or may not exhibit similar tendencies and behaviors, but this much smaller number of intimate murders is precipitated by a specific event. Last year, Chris Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado man, murdered his pregnant wife Shannan and two daughters, 4 … Familicide is commonly intertwined with the term ‘family annihilator’ stemming from the act itself, that of family annihilation. The woman was a psychologist and had earlier shared an article titled "Narcissistic parents are Literally Incapable Of Loving Their Children. Killed them all, meant to kill himself but couldn’t. In half the cases, the killer lastly kills themselves in a murder-suicide. Foster was 'family annihilator' Advertisement. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.waterskraus.com/record-236m-settles-dental-medicaid-fraud-involving-xerox/, https://www.registercitizen.com/local/article/Cops-to-release-IDs-CT-family-feared-dead-14977063.php. Combined with the information about the Florida home eviction I'm wondering if this was a case of murder/suicide, but he couldn't kill himself after killing his family. There are too many providers. Yes everyone overlooks the religion thing. Sit in places where basic tanks will farm off of shapes near their base and then let them come close to you (due to the frustration of you regening the health as soon he deals damage. However, on rare occasions it's someone outside… Chris Watts had the manipulative charm of many serials but this dude was seen slumped in a wheelchair at the time of arrest and has yet to give a public statement (if ever). She called him a devoted father... gross. The false claims act relies on whistleblowers because medicare can't go around verifying all the charges made to medicare. I was curious myself. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. And the dog. but broke down and just stayed there catatonic until eventually neighbors called the cops to whom he promptly confessed. Shocking! Email. Unfortunately, when I do my October blog series, I’ll be discussing several family annihilators. There were four bodies in the home which haven’t been identified yet, but are believed to be his family’s. Family annihilators, in the narrowest definition, are one end of a grisly spectrum: These are people who murder their spouse and their children before committing suicide. It's absolutely insane that people think this is the proper way out. Bookmark with: Delicious; Digg; reddit; Facebook; StumbleUpon; What are these? It seems very clear at least one of them was aware, to some degree, of what had transpired. Anyhow- I found it an interesting take on the whole thing. Holy shit. Such a shame. He probably felt that this was the only option. One person who knew the family said she had contacted child welfare authorities prior to the violence. Especially given that he was "commuting" between Connecticut and Florida. Cases like that of Damian Rzeszowski are uncommon but sadly there have been several instances of men killing their families in the UK in recent years. Conjecture. Then, (and this is where he really differs from watts to me) nothing. I'd probably visit him in jail at some point, maybe. This is a case of a family annihilator that will absolutely shock you to your core. Defender7881 wrote: For an AFK game build, use this build: 7/6/0/5/5/5/5. Turns out that his house contained a Tiffany ceiling that could have made him a millionaire. I can't find the facebook group, would like to see what kind of strange comments were there. Why go to all the trouble of having children so late in life, just to murder them? As far as being a cover though, nope. He may commit suicide after killing the others, or may force the police to kill him.” – Forensic Psychiatrist P.E Dietz (1986) A few years ago I became obsessed with family annihilators—people who murder their entire families. nope. In the US it is known as "family annihilation". She was in a custody dispute and I'm assuming she was worried about losing her children and obviously the answer is killing them (/s x a million). TWO guest hosts join Natalie to talk about our first unsolved episode, the story of Bradford Bishop, The Family Annihilator. I’m very interested to see what we learn in regards to the sisters involvement. If only the parents are killed, the case may also be referred to as a parricide. Living in that house with his family’s bodies... then the sister tried to rally him, get him an alibi, get him to pretend, maybe, (again conjecture she could just be another victim in this) but he ultimately didn’t have it in him. Pinterest. Karl Arnold ("The Fox") - A psychiatrist who targeted families he viewed as dysfunctional. Possibly even considering coming forward to confess before all this. Family annihilators may well have existed for as long as the family itself. 48 is pretty old to have kids. Its definitely been a long con that he's run. There were four bodies in the home which haven’t been identified yet, but are believed to be his family’s. She would go to jail but her daughters would be safe from him forever and, you know, not dead. Most often, family annihilators are a parent. "The family annihilator should be seen as a specific category of murderer, for a crime which appears to be increasing," concluded Wilson. Probably why no one noticed they were dead for a month. These are people that kill an entire family whether it’s for profit or other personal gain. Morbid N’ Macabre True Crimes Join The Discussion Some people have policies on their children as well as spouses. It’s Finally Up & Running! But perhaps he was convinced otherwise, that somehow they could fix this. I don't know if it's the sisters' group or not, but I'm in one; the consensus there seems to be that the sisters were acting fishy about how they were "searching". Wasn't sure what that was so I googled it, it had to do with fraud against the government, with Medicaid/Medicare fraud being one example. Story Tools. Killing the dog may be because he wasn't at the house, so leaving a live dog at the house could leave to the crime being discovered much sooner. His master was a man named Brandford Bishop and he … He was such a good guy! “The family annihilator is usually the senior man of the house, who is depressed, paranoid, intoxicated or a combination of these. Are you in the Facebook group? Cookies help us deliver our Services. Bob Spangler not only got away with the murder of his wife of 23 years & their two children, but he also killed his 3rd wife and walked. If they were indeed killed with carbon monoxide, as some have guessed, that would be another huge difference from Chris who used his bare hands. At first the state said he wasnt, then after his arrest they said he was. Chris Watts thought he could get away with the annihilation of his family by crafting a story about just one thing. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. He’s been in the house with them for quite a while. Unfortunately, when I do my October blog series, I'll be discussing several family annihilators. I hope they fry this guy. I've read that criminals do this all time when they break in a house. 55-year-old Michele Boudreau Deegan shot her twin 7-year-old daughters while they were sleeping before killing herself October 23, 2020 in Sudden Valley, Washington. Someone mentioned his license expiring sept but thats not likely the reason. Michele Deegan had been involved in a custody dispute over the children, police added. One such was Chris Foster, a British man who invented … His sister’s statement reeks of the same thing Chris Watt’s mother’s did in the deep denial. Editor's Choice. 257,106 views A family annihilator can be anyone in the family who murders most, if not all, members of their immediate family. Per the press release that was just on, the victims have been identified as the family and Tony admitted to killing them. Why are you being downvoted? Sometimes the killer will then try to commit suicide, die with his family. They are called qui tam lawsuits. Murderer Chris Watts forced a Tinder date to play out a 'rape fantasy' just months before slaughtering his pregnant wife and two young daughters in August 2018, police documents show. Bless those twins souls❤️❤️, A girl in a nanny group I’m in used to be their nanny and is so distraught over this. Solo this week, Tara will be sharing a true crime story that happened to a family she was acquainted with through her kid's school. I think at least as far as the public goes it definitely painted his whole family in a more negative light. I guess my point is that people who take extreme measures over stupid problems aren't the most creative. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He hired a mentally ill teenager from the school he worked at. These fiendish crimes are carried out by a diverse group of people who range from evil to sick. I know suicidal people aren't rational so I shouldn't expect rational thought. In between are familicides, like Watts’, in which the murderer kills their domestic partner and children, but not themselves. It’s Finally Up & Running! From what I’m seeing so far, he seems a very different person. Family of slain UNC student Faith Hedgepeth desperate for answers nearly eight years after her brutal murder Hear a Murdered Co-Ed’s Chilling Last Voicemail Recording 8 Years After N.C. College Student’s Murder, Mom Still Seeks Answers in Daughter’s Death But they’ve been identified as such only recently, as distinct from other kinds of mass murderers. A former Senior Police officer here in the United Kingdom has killed himself after slaughtering his wife, and six year old daughter, he tried to kill his other two teenage childre He was under investigation by the feds for Medicaid/-care fraud related to the PT office, but I'd bet we're about to see a mistress trotted out, too. It amazes me that a family would try to stick by a brother that murdered his children. Do you think this family history has influence on what happened? Going on tv to defend him or giving interviews about how he's misunderstood? E-mail this to a friend. Obviously zero value for life of any kind. He is NOT a good guy, but was able to put on a mask and fool many, many others while being the bad guy the entire time. Posted on August 24, 2020 by mylifeofcrime Victims Charles Klepetar, 78 Robert H. McDowell, 59 Elizabeth McDowell, 48, Daniel McDowell, 22. 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