In 2007, my son, son in law and I had 3, 300 win mags built. Some do like the very fast speeds, but really, anything over 3000fps....doubtful any of us could tell any difference, ha. Worth playing with! This new powder is designed for large, magnum cartridges, such as .300 Win Magnum, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, and 28 Nosler, among others. Mag. I wouldn't know where to even start for a 800yd shot, ha. So the follower I have from my 300 WM will work then. I have a Remington 700 in 300 WM that I might rebarrel to 28 Nosler. Compare these rounds in the charts below. Joined: Jan 2006. ... With that being said, 7mag, 30-06 and 300 win mag are just as effective with a lot less recoil. Remember Me? My profile picture shows an AB I recovered this past fall. I know every barrel is different but with dumb luck, it worked in mine. Limbsaver airtech recoil pad for Xbolt/Abolt rifles, Adventures of a flatlander in a strange place - 2021. Ribs to under hide near flank 225 yards. Not too light, but a 180 mono in a 300 Mag is flat shooting, hits hard, and likely to completely penetrate the marjority of shots! Both cases were new unfired. It bettered the velocity of the benchmark .30-06 Springfield by over 200 fps, yet could fit in a standard long action. Same with a 240 Wby, either a Partition(premium) or mono. I know I have used some very light (but stout) bullets for big game and I always zeroed them about 1" high at 100. I like to work up a good load with the mono I like ( and weight I want) say 150 TTSX/175LRX for a 300WM and then I work up a good load with the 200 Noslers or similar. But I doubt the folks who use the lighter bullets are being recoil conscious, ha. They were Remington 700 actions with 26" Lilja 1:10 barrels and McMillian stocks. Posts: 18,453. That .338 cal 180 made a wound channel that looked like every Partition result I had ever seen. In order to send the heavy bullet downrange with that much power, The 28 Nosler creates quite a kick. No meat damage. Have a ball though, Life is Short! Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. I did some bench comparisons of the two. My response to many of these posts is that I usually go back to whichever bullet shoots best in. I have a Remington 700 in 300 WM that I might rebarrel to 28 Nosler. The 7mm Remington Ultra Mag uses a larger capacity case and, loaded to the same MAP, has the potential to outperform the .28 Nosler, although not by a lot. Nosler ABLR vs Hornady ELDx vs Federal Terminal Ascent reviews/experience? I seriously doubt you could realistically judge the difference in barrel life between the three so it … Rarely had to follow up with a 2nd shot! Feb 25, 2018. However, if they hold up well on a big hog, from near and far, they will work fine on anything bigger critter! I've killed everything from elk to turkeys with a 180grn Interlock flying out of a 300WM. I'd probably just keep shooting my 7mm Remington with a long throat. A 300 or 325 WSM (Winchester short magnum brass) necked up to .338 will give velocities on par with what the new 33 Nosler does with even lesser amounts of powder and all while seating the bullet correctly in the case for maximum accuracy while keeping the OAL of the loaded round to 3.340″ (like the Noslers). I have more experience with the older Barnes 180 XBT from a 300 Win Mag. When shot from an 8 lb rifle, the 28 Nosler creates 33 foot-pounds of recoil. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the worlds big gamewith real long-range advantages in trajectory and wind drift when compared to others using .30-cal. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. It will also handle 200gr bullet's but I don't think as ell as the 300 magnums. Of the cup and core, the Sierra Pro Hunter 180 and Speer Hot Cor 180 do very well, but even better ( based on my use in 30-06 and 30-06 Improved) are the Sierra 200 GK SBT and the Speer 200 Hot Cor. Load a 175-grain bullet atop 92 grains of Retumbo in the 7mm RUM and, according to “Nosler Reloading Guide 7,” you should get a … It may not display this or other websites correctly. However, as we worked through a variety of bullets and powders, the 200 grain AB ahead of RL22 shot the best. 1,776. I have no experience with a 300 mag but have a thought on bullet's for cartridges anyway. The.28 Nosler is a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. and .300 Win. Nosler rifle in 28 Nosler for $1799 at the Scheels store in Lincoln. Switched to E-tip 180s. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and … I liked the Nosler 115 PT minimum for a 257 Wby and later the 100 TSX best. Therefore, 300 PRC has a slightly flatter trajectory, a little more retained energy, less wind drift, and somewhat more recoil than the 300 Win Mag. With the .404 Jeffery providing the parent case, the 27 Nosler outdoes the capacity of the iconic .270 Winchester by 42 percent, the .270 WSM by 25 percent and the .270 Weatherby by 12.5 percent. The problem come's in that with those heavy bullet's rcoil also goes up but that's the price yu pay. If it is a Premium, its sixes for me. Campfire Kahuna. My SIL used the same bullet in my 338 Federal for a close up shot on a mule deer. Both the .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM are rated at 65,000 psi maximum pressure, same as the .22-250 Rem. Mag. I've had good luck with H4831 and 200 gr Accubonds, but I would try 180 gr bullets as well, and go with whichever is more accurate. The bolt face was OK. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. If you have a chance to hunt hogs, they are a great "bullet tester", ha, much cheaper/ more prolific to hunt/shoot than elk/moose/bear. What changes will I need to my Remington 700 action to make it feed/function correctly ? #10676504 11/07/15: Joined: Jan 2006. Password. Campfire Kahuna. One more downside of the 28 Nosler is the scarcity of factory ammunition. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. If you already have the action, as in a shot out 7RM, .300WM, etc., it's less expensive to add a $600 premium barrel than buy a Nosler rifle. RDFinn OP. Its a good looking bullet. Happy with it so far on a handful of animals I have taken. In the 30-06, I always liked (for deer) the 125-150 c&c and the 168TSX for a Mono, but then, I just "have" to try and get good loads with 200gr C&C, PT, even the Woodleigh 30-06 rated 240gr. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : Alliant Reloder-22 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. I second the opinion in finding which one the gun likes and how much room you have in the magazine to handle the longer heavier bullets. You are using an out of date browser. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. A 30-06 will handle a 180gr bullet very well, in my 30-06 it's my bullet of choice. It won't bother me to change out a mag box or follower.....I just don't want to be milling the action (opening feed rails) so that it becomes a permanent Ultra Mag action. Cartridge : .300 Win. I had read years ago and believe to this day that the beauty of a magnum is it handles heavy for cartridge bullet's better than standard bullet's. The .300 Winchester Magnum—that belted affair based on a shortened Holland and Holland case—was released in 1963 as the last in a quartet of cartridges that redefined magnum performance to the masses. Mag. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. In this comparison I review ballistics data for the 28 Nosler and the 7mm Rem Magnum. Sounds like a lot of work and a PITA. Working up a load for my 300 win mag. Thinking about either the Christensen arms ridgeline 28 nosler or weatherby weathermark lt in 300 wby mag. I shot a heavy Aoudad sheep at 250 or so, and he made one hop and was done. 7mm vs 300 win vs 28 nosler. Like the 7mm STW and 7mm RUM, the .28 Nosler is seriously over-bore. The new Enduron 8133 powder will be available in 1-lb and 8-lb canisters starting in February 2018. That is what I did. I felt from the beginning that we would end up with the 180 grain AB as our final choice. They share a maximum body diameter of 0.550 inch. With full power factory loads or … Its a good looking bullet. Big-game cartridges in .338 caliber have become popular, including the (1) .338 Winchester Magnum, (2) .340 Weatherby Magnum, (3) .338 Remington Ultra Mag, (4) .338 Lapua and (5) .33 Nosler. With somewhere near .200” of freebore, the 300 Win mag is going to use 75-78 grains of H1000 most of the time, compared to 83-85 grains in the 30 Nosler with the PRC in the middle. With the slowest burn rate among Enduron powders, 8133 has burn properties similar to Hodgdon Retumbo. I … No feeding/modifications to the action and cheaper brass to boot. IIRC, this is the flour and sugar for a Kimber Classic safe resident. Ha I had a friend who used the factory 220gr Corlokts on Tx deer/hogs in his 30-06. Bernardsville, NJ. 180 AB with 75.0g RL-22 has worked wonders in 2 separate 300WM for me. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. Mag. I have to reiterate though that I don't shoot past 375 or so. We have 3 300 w m in the house each required a different bullet to get sub moa 165 acc b a 190 Berger and a 210 Berger. I liked the "point and shoot", thread the needle ( through a hole in the puckerbrush if you would) type shooting that I did. I think any High Velocity round needs these kinds of bullets. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020. It drove the .300 Holland & Holland completely out of the lime … Geez....I guess it IS easier and cheaper to get a Rem 700 in 7RM and punch it to Mashburn. I had two 7RM 700 BDLs converted to 26 Nosler, one for me, one for my hunting bud. "I used to have Bass rolling like thunder.........can't do dat no mo'.". I recently worked up a load in 300WM with the 200 Partition. Even at 250yds, thats still humming and it did swell! (R) Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler PART SP 16331 Cartridge O.A.L. Even the older 220 cup n core "can" come apart from a 300 Mag up close. I think the mid range to heavy weight bullet's in each cartridge work best. Why not just buy a Nosler rifle? There's plenty enough energy in that 180grn AB for whatever you want to shoot. Anyone have experience with 180 or 200 grain Accubonds? Username. Nosler Trophy Grade Long Range 300 WSM (Winchester Short Mag) 190gr Accubond LR Rifle Ammo - 20 Rounds $69.99 ($3.50/round) Buy Online Pick-Up In-Store Only Limit 2 You must log in or register to reply here. They have ethically killed every animal I have shot at. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. So, "if" your rifle likes it, it will hold up just fine in your 300 WM. I loaded the 200 NAB over a wad of Retumbo for a 300 RUM, gift for my SIL. And then I cannot see using less than heavy bullet's in any magnum If for some reason I were to buy a magnum again and it were a 300 mag there is no doubt in my mind the bullet's I'd be leaning toward would be 200grs. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. RDFinn. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. Location. I loaded the 200 NAB over a wad of Retumbo for a 300 RUM, gift for my SIL. He killed a big cow a tad over 440yds with it, blew chunks out the other side, he said. I like the 'Old School" 200gr CnC bullets to 'thump" something hard, ha. Pocatello Idaho. The 28 Nosler should be about the same. 30 Nosler vs. 300 Win Mag. It actually produces twice the recoil as the smaller 6.5 Creedmoor (see comparison below). 300 PRC and .300 Win Mag factory loads generally have similar muzzle velocities, but the 300 PRC shoots a heavier bullet with a higher BC. Barrel it and see if it will work then if not modify the feed rails. Yep. A gunsmith friend of mine who reloaded a bunch said for some reason, that load worked in a lot of guns. The 30 Nosler cartridge delivers better ballistics than the .300 Win. It’s a 26” 1:10 twist barrel. Go figure. I did use the 180 NAB, but in a 338 RUM, started out right at 3500fps. The only downside I have seen so far is their availability can be spotty during certain times of the year. In rifles of same build weight, same brake and everything else same the 215 vs 195 recoil wise is not a noticeable difference! I think the newer TTSX has more advantages. He traveled about 20 yards, pleased me as do Partition in 180g. Are they needed?, No, but if I had a choice of a 180 cup and core and a Mono for a 300, its going to be the Mono. These 700s required a fair amount of action work to feed the Nosler round, including a RUM mag box with "windows" for the fatter round. I don't reckon the 28 Nosler is much different than the 7 Dakota. 30 NOSLER VS. 300 WIN MAG. 300 PRC vs 300 Win Mag. 2950fps with R23 shot like a varmint rifle, the 200 NAB would be swell too. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. I like the Mid to Heavy "conventional" bullets also, because they work pretty well. The above 26 Nosler, similar set up for a 28 Nosler, set me back around $1,400. Rebating the rim to 0.534 inch simplifies the production of rifle bolts since the rims of Holland & Holland-style belted magnums, such as the 7mm Remington and.300 Winchester, are the same diameter. Try either H4831 or H1000 for either bullet pick the one that shoots best and run with it... U really cant go wrong with either...…. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. Finally time to do some reloading for my Savage Model 110 Long Range Hunter in 300 WSM. I shoot a 200 AB in my .300 Win with H4831sc. OP. The 300 Win Mag’s short case neck is not detrimental to accuracy, and it is actually capable of near bench-rest like groups with the proper load in a high quality rifle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. They're both moose medicine. Mag box, follower ? If you're gun just seems to like the 200s better, there's that, but don't worry energy between the two. Both are very similar in cost and performance just wondered what everyone else's thoughts were. However, the lighter weight monos just change the whole paradigm, IMHO. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. Have a ball Pard! Together we broke the barrels in and then developed a load. 28 nosler burning upwards of 85gr of powder va 300 win burning roughly 77gr of powder. vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM The U.S.A. hasn’t fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. Very few folks realize that out around 350-400 it starts overtaking the 180. I have more experience with the older Barnes 180 XBT from a 300 Win Mag. It gave the same result. the Monos are long, but many heavier c&c bullets are too, and they "do" recoil more. The fat, Nosler round would not pass thru the action rails on either 700, but would easily pass thru the rail of a Magnum M-70. Posts: 18,453. I used to shoot 180s (ABs) and they grouped well at 200 yds, outside with wind. The Contestants. I had a 7 Wby rebarreled to 7 Dakota and it required no changes at all to feed rails or bolt face, functioned well. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. By logging into your account, ... the WSM is much more efficient than the 300 Win Mag, 61 grains of H4350 will push a 210 VLD Berger 2860fps, the win mag will take almost 10 more grains of powder to get the same velocity. The author analyzed six .30 caliber magnum cartridges (.300 H&H Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .300 Weatherby, .300 Remington Ultra Mag., .30 Nosler, and .30-378 Weatherby) for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. JavaScript is disabled. 300 Win Mag to 28 Nosler ? Bernardsville, NJ. Compare these rounds in the charts below. If deformation of the lead nose in the magazine box is a problem, our 180 grain Protected Point Partition or AccuBond bullets are good options. out of an unbelted case, and fits into .30-’06 Sprg.-length actions. DF Register to reply here then developed a load for my SIL goes up but 's! 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